I was sent a link to a post in a topic on the RoL forum entitled Creator=God=Jesus? where a post was added for two indigenous women by one LostWhiteBrother. To begin with I would express the opinion that this white brother apparently isn’t so lost as the name implies and respect the fact that he has been willing to open himself up to what will probably be insults and accusations.
These women came with coup sticks and counted plenty, to the extent that thus far I have seen more of what they have described as the silence of men with one lone exception who seems to imply indigenous men didn’t know as the women have been silent. They have made several valid and indisputable points ranging from the aversion by both men and women, and more notably Russell himself, who frequent the forum, to address real time issues such as the devastation created by alcohol and substance abuse and the rape and physical abuse of women and children, as well as Annie Mae.
I wonder how many of these silent women advocate elsewhere for women’s rights, are “liberated” in the vernacular?
How many of them speak against the abuse of women in Muslim nations, sexual harassment in the workplace, a lower wage standard for women? How many of them are peta supports and pay more lip service to that agenda? All that and join the legendary RoL silence when it comes to Annie Mae or the abuses indigenous women face?
I have respect for women but for those these two women have addressed and any of like nature it amounts to a basic one founded on gender and little else.
Furthermore I’m at a loss to understand why those on other forums won’t make the effort to venture into the RoL fantasy land for one brief statement of support for Annie Mae and indigenous women and then depart if they so desire. Though I don’t lump them into the same category-men are not excluded from this either.
Those who perpetuate the lies have no such hesitancy-they will avail themselves of any venue to speak the distortions and perpetuate the myths-it is a strategy that enabled them to obstruct, confuse, and gain the upper hand for decades.
These are serious issues and yet I found myself laughing at some of their statements-one of which was that if the men were to suffer the abuse of rape not only they, but Russell, would undoubtedly find their voices- I couldn’t agree more or help but think what an abject lesson it would be for them.
In reading through the prior replies and opinions expressed there I had to shake my head and laugh about statements made such as pouty, pout, pout-what exactly is that? Jesus is portrayed alternately as a demon or a wino stumbling about with his posse and he and they just kind of partied their way across the country-later the author who expressed that allows that maybe that wasn’t exactly the case.
Inevitably the conversation segues into recitals of feats of strength and daring do, and one who is a muslim that apparently has been well received, as long as he knew his place and kept to it, ventures a modest, inoffensive opinion and becomes a target himself.
With all the twists and turns that have taken place it has taken on the appearance of a soap opera-one that could well be named As The RoL Churns, or The Edge of Stagnation-I’m still waiting to see who has cheated on who, and who is having another man’s baby.
These two women have characterised those speaking there and failing to speak elsewhere as being bark less puppies-ouch-who know nothing of tradition and offer the opinion that such being the case the greater service would pretty much be to shut up.
They also point out that for the oft repeated mantra that the RoL forum is a l/d/n site that perhaps if not for the love of a gullible audience they should restrict it to the lakota only and spend their days with what little membership that would remain stroking each other or idly sitting in silence after they’ve exhausted their bag of opinions waiting for another to say something.
I think the entire topic is an eye opener and should be looked at-it will probably disappear or erupt into a fire storm of indignation and accusations-that seems to be the way the RoL rolls.