19 comments on “WHAT IS LOST AND WHAT IS GAINED ?

  1. First came the steel, that slaughtered our nations
    Gifts became unknown objects to behold
    They came for our land, with no reservations
    Conquerors all, a history told
    Shovels that dug to find yellow metal
    Thunder Horse iron encroaching our fold
    They came for our metals, coal, and uranium
    Conquerors all, a history told
    Our language; our culture, we speak from the heart
    We do what we have to, our traditions enfold
    For seven generations, into the future
    We stand as One Nation, a history told

  2. rezinate, you say many things to make us think and ask the questions,
    and they are not the common ones we see in many places. But it
    is good to do this and my grandfather has said if a thing is not looked
    to it will not be made to be different. And we would say to this one
    Anakis we like this poem and have you made this.

  3. To Meoquene and Jess, You are the next generation of our people, and your Grandfather and Rezinate both speak many words of wisdom, which have touched your heart. I wrote the poem after reading Rezinate’s post.

  4. As usual- great post and delicious food for thought, Rezinate!

    Meoquane and Jess are so right – you say many things to make us think and ask the questions, not common ones…
    So question I have (not only to you, to everyone who would like share their point of view)- shall we define language ONLY as combination of words?

    So then what about sign language, body language, voices and songs/ sounds?
    Ways elements, animals, plants, children NOT using human language words influence, cooperate, understand and communicate with each other?

    Nature doesn’t speak in words but sounds, images, colors, signs, vibrations, sensual exchange – only humankind uses words which have so many different and confusing meanings, creating so many misunderstandings.

    What with whole worldwide language that is NOT based on words?

  5. I would begin by thanking everyone for their contributions and kind words-
    the poem by Anakis cuts to the quick and lays bare the reality without
    compromise.
    To M+J I would say it is always good to think and challenge, doing so
    doesn’t necessitate agreement, but it augments and is an exercise in
    free will. You are fortunate to have such a grandfather-he is a gift.
    Stonefeather you can be counted upon to come at a topic from a variety
    of different directions-that’s a good thing because it produces more
    contemplation, and stimulates the process of thinking and asking questions.

    Having said the above I could go on endlessly relating all the positives
    regarding the nations but there are countless others doing so and few
    addressing what I consider to be internal problems, and so I elect to speak
    of the latter. If I am wrong in my assessments I’m willing to be shown so,
    in fact I would appreciate it.
    The positives aren’t the issue, it is the negatives that are, and silence only
    serves to further entrench them-a perpetuation that leads a high school aged
    girl to say that rape and abuse are “just the way it is”.
    That would be “just the way it is” while so called leaders and patriots within the
    indigenous community have volumes to say about everything else-a sorry
    illustration of how words or the lack of them can be employed.
    Or indigenous “leaders” aspiring to open a liquor store in Whiteclay while promoting it as a solution to the issue of alcoholism, some asinine illogic
    about perpetuating the problem and using the profits to construct “treatment
    centers” that no doubt would become another source of revenue.
    In my opinion there exists a variety of ways to communicate, but it is
    language, words, that have always produced the greatest impact and created understanding, deception,and confusion between people
    They are a conveyance whether written or spoken, and THE dominant form of
    communicating. Not everyone knows sign language, or the meaning of
    petroglyphs and symbols-in a way it is like a person walking in the woods who
    sees tracks and hasn’t a clue what made them-all can learn to read them but
    such an ability is not universal while words are.
    Words flesh out what is understood and allow an ease of transmission-I might
    be able to teach someone how to cut compound miters or calculate the values
    involved in constructing rafters without words but it would be an onerous time consuming task and one I suspect wouldn’t go well.
    The spoken and written word come with no guarantee, even if explicitly stated so-for language like all things man has put his hand to is not pristine-but a
    thing whose integrity should often time be suspect.
    The loss of language as an ethnic event is catastrophic-it creates a fissure between the past and the present that in my opinion is insurmountable, resulting
    in a future that is Karioke and pantomime until the original values no longer
    exist.
    This is exactly what can be seen in indigenous communities today-restore the language, remove the bullshitters, and the restoration of traditions and the understanding of them will follow.
    I fail to see any value in railing about the “colonizers” while embracing the
    worst of their ways-yet we see there are more than a few who do exactly this and
    have enriched themselves in the process or fallen into ruin and despair.
    When the original language is supplanted by another something is always lost or added in the translation-we see it in the translation of the words of our own
    where a type of Bibical lyricism is infused-words like behold and lo.
    These things provide a vignette of what the future can become-a future none
    of us should pursue.
    All things have a language, it would be an extreme arrogance to assume that
    it is only humankind that possesses the ability to speak. Many cultures have an awareness of this, and they are the ones that exhibit respect for all things
    while others see themselves as the apex and conduct themselves in a gluttonous
    and insensitive way-it is about them and little else. Sure they may talk the talk, but they do not walk the walk.

  6. Communication can come in various forms, silence and inaction can be clear communications. Supporting another can communicate agreement, while distancing from another can communicate disapproval.

    Someone can speak clear English, yet be misunderstood. But then be silent, and be understood.

    Steel can be used to make a pot to cook for the family, or a sword to kill them. In some places iron ore is sitting on the surface, while other is underground. That could be viewed as an offering, and a taking.

    White tribes made tools from copper, yet still kept their language and ways intact. They just adapted in a small way to include the metal into their way of life.

    When the darkness inside was adopted, it killed their ways, as it has done to ours here.

    Water can bring life, or put under pressure and destroy a mountain. It is believed the Romans dug caves in a mountain underneath a reservoir, then flooded the caves, creating so much pressure it caused an entire mountain to explode.

    Nature provides us many things, and the ways we use them can be the difference between life and death.

    I think we need to consider how something is used, be it language, wood, steel, water, or anything else. As our usage can be the difference between life and death.

  7. “Each night we gaze upon same moon. Each day we are warmed by the same Sun. Each step we take is upon the same Earth. The divisions between us are illusions fed by ignorance and fear. Shed these…be free.”
    – Ashoka Angulimala Upāsaka

  8. stonefeather: not familiar with Upasaka but there is
    a truth in this quote you provided and a lesson to
    be learned.

    Anakis: Thanks for this great video-it is education
    coupled with an appreciation of tradition that will
    empower youth.

    Tali Uquelugv: Not so blind

  9. @ Rezi : Wasn’t familiar myself, got quote from friends. Truth is truth, no matter who’s name is below quote…Good to see many seeing same thing and believe same thing in my opinion 🙂

    @ Tali: Even if blind- still lucky squirrel to have other seneses so sharp find such BIG nut…
    Even more lucky to not be like poor Scat from Ice Age with whole adventures to get the one:D

    @ Anankis: GREAT video and thanks SO MUCH for sharing 😀
    Will pass it on to others as great example to CHANGE point of view .

  10. Took a bit for the video to show up and load right, not sure why. Great to see the young ones saying enough is enough, and speaking up. Everyone is so much more than a number on a piece of paper. Or a 10 minute video on YouTube. Good to see they are making the effort to speak out, thank you for posting this Anakis.

  11. Stonefeather, thank you, I had to laugh at this, one because I can be like scrat sometimes, and two, the scientific usage for scat. One little letter, so much fun.

  12. @ Tali: Thanks, you made my day…

    As I just saw this comment and went to check difference between Scat and Scrat…
    Was helplessly laughing at myself! Indeed – one letter – so much fun ! 😀 😀

    Well that meaning of Scat I like most of all:
    Any marine and freshwater percoid fish of the Asian family Scatophagidae, esp Scatophagus argus, which has a beautiful coloration.
    [shortened from Scatophagus]

    ( surprising one is this means “whiskey” in slang)

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scat

    Thanks for lessons : to pay more attention to letters/ words and for all the meanings of “scat” 😀
    All best to you .

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