20 comments on “WHOOPI GOLDBERG

  1. My message to Whoopi Goldberg appears on the facebook link you give for Justice… Some time ago , I also sent a lot of information to Malak Shabbaz, daughter of Malcom X, and a friend of mine for many years, who is developing her own voice at the UN and African American circles in terms of human rights. Somehow, even Malak had never heard the story of Perry Ray Robinson Jr….. I asked her to look into the matter. So far, no confirmation that she has.

    • I saw your comment Helene-excellent and gratitude is owed you. Whoopi and Shabbaz
      are people that can up the ante, and I’m betting if AIM is following along on the various
      sites they are already hurriedly planning another campaign of lies to attempt to address
      any eventuality.

  2. Whoopi Goldberg has known about Russell Means & AIMS abuses, & about Ray Robinson for a long time, for our mutual friend Ellen Washington, my friend in junior high..before Ellen went from Pasco Washington to live with her Mother in Berekley, California.
    Out of the blue last year… Ellen, whom I had not heard from for 4 decades contacted me via FB.
    Since Ellen for a time was on my FB friends list, anything I wrote on my page, would be seen by anyone who was on her friends list.
    Ellen lived with Whoopi, so there is little doubt in my mind, the FB exchanges between Ellen & myself, were known by Whoopi, & she has known about Ray Robinson’s murder by AIM.
    Ellen knew exactly what I was fighting against…as she mentioned it in our conversations.
    Ellen & I even talked about her visiting me, I am glad it never actually occurred…
    Ellen & Whoopi’s political position (pro-Obama), is not mine….
    The Hollyweird tolerant lib attitude is not my own.
    I used to like Whoopi until her position on Sharon Tate’s husband, Roman Polanski’s rape of a young girl, & he ran from facing prosecution..& is still living in Europe to avoid prosecution 4 decades (plus) later.
    Whoopi said on a TV program, Polanski had already paid for his crime by being in exile away from his vocation in Hollyweird…
    BS, as a rape victim myself, (by Means) I believe & know…rape is rape, especially when grown men like Polanski & his buddy, Jack Nicholson used drugs & alcohol to lure this young girl to Nicholson’s home for the rape by Polanski to occur.
    You run when you are guilty…Polanski was guilty, and is still guilty no matter how much time has past, period.
    Whoopi’s position & opinion on this serious matter of rape & abuse was the tipping factor of my defriending Ellen Washington…our values are not the same.
    Numerous people I know have also contacted Oprah about Ray Robinson to no avail…
    Hollyweird protects their own, just like politicians, & government…whether they are right or not, they do influence many people who do not take the time to find out the truth for themselves…

    • I hardly think living the high life in France(?) qualifies as paying for a
      crime-and if I recall correctly he has continued to pursue his vocation
      during his years of self imposed exile.
      But this is an attitude people will sometimes take-that was then and
      this is now-something AIM has relied heavily upon.

  3. I don’t know when the rumours about Ray Robinson’s murder first started circulating but at the time and in the years immediately after, no one said anything about this. It seems to have developed since. I wasn’t there, so I can’t give an opinion. But this is an alleged murder and as per usual, something to blame Russell Means for.

    It hasn’t been investigated, there is no reason to connect him with it but it’s stated he murdered Ray Robinson, without proof or trial, he has been convicted (again) as guilty.

    There are some very strong comments I notice here about Whoopi Goldberg, with the implication being she knew about the murder and doesn’t care. is it open season on her now as well, I don’t know Ms Goldberg but she doesn’t strike me as the kind of woman who would be indifferent to murder.

    • Anything that occurred during the AIM Reign of Terror within WK2 was either known, directed,
      or approved by AIM leadership-that’s the name of that tune, and despite their best efforts
      to rewrite the history of it nothing changes that.
      I’d say there exists ample enough evidence of Ray’s presence and murder at WK2 as to be
      indisputable-Carter Camp says Ray was there and shot-Richard Two Elk says Ray was there
      and shot, others have as well-so if you’re denying any part of their statements then you’re
      calling them liars wouldn’t you say? Something AIM and it’s supporters will routinely do
      if any among them speaks any portion of the truth.
      If so you should explain what reason they would have for doing so-especially in view of the
      fact that they were AIM.
      Or you could elect to go the same route as SB with a feeble and inane excuse that maybe they
      don’t “fully remember” that he attempted to float regarding other issues.
      Now if Whoopi had spoken ill of Russell you would be taking the opposite tact-personally I
      haven’t a clue about what she knows and doesn’t know,and I’m kind of thinking neither do you,
      but I suspect she knows a little more now than she may have previously-whether that bodes
      well or not remains to be seen.

  4. I think there are a lot of question marks over the whole thing but it’s the usual ‘Russell Means did it’ argument that I was pointing out was unproven.

    The reign of terror had started with the Guardians of the Oglala Nation under Dick Wilson’s leadership, which was why ‘traditionals’ asked AIM to go to the reservation to help.

    Regarding Whoopi Goldberg stating that she knew about a murder, as has been done above and you’ve said you ‘suspect’ when in reality unless she has discussed it with you, you can’t have any idea of, is libel.

    It’s a very serious allegation to state ‘….were known by Whoopi, & she has known about Ray Robinson’s murder by AIM’ as Dupree has above.

    Whoopi Goldberg may have heard rumours like many people but to state ‘she has known’ about the murder implies she condoned it and ignored it. That is an appalling allegation.

    I presume this is a ‘let us all discredit Whoopi Goldberg because she has said something positive about Russell Means’ effort.

    • Isobel-as usual you have the facts wrong-the “traditionals” as you say in point of fact
      asked AIM for time to think it over-as that wasn’t a part of AIM’s agenda that time
      wasn’t given to them.
      I said I suspect Whoopi knows more about it NOW-meaning that various tweets and responses
      have been sent to her and references have been made on several sites in response to her
      statement-nice attempt to spin Isobel but people can read and understand.
      Now it’s libel-is that on the AIMINTELPRO list of approved comments to make and misdirect
      their minions seem to love?

  5. I noted incidentally you haven’t posted my link to the site forum discussing New Age Frauds with specific reference to one shaministic individual in particular. Wonder why that is.

      • Or if, as in your case, you want to invent it.

        I see that comments I wrote yesterday are still in moderation apparently and not appearing and one of those was that I was not writing back to you on the forum today as it would have been Russell’s 73rd birthday.

        However, as it is, one thing I will say is that after doing some quick research, there is in fact nothing to suggest that Russell killed Ray Robinson. It appears some people say Mr Robinson was there 1 day others say he was there 1 week. Amongst the several accounts I read, not one suggested Russell killed him. Something he also denied in his lifetime.

        And of course you have managed to libel Whoopi Goldberg as well concerning the statement about what she knew.

        I have great sympathy for Ray Robinson’s widow and family but it’s not going to help them to have his death used, as you are, in your personal vendetta against Russell.

      • Amazing how your mind works Isobel-I’ve been back over the blog and
        my responses as cited below-nowhere within them do I see anything
        even vaguely stating that Russell personally killed Ray-it’s a difficult
        task for you to accept things as they are written or said, but you’re
        really going to have to make the effort if your sole purpose is defend
        your “friend”.
        As to Whoopi, read again-note that the emphasis is placed on NOW-that
        would be post tweets, as in after the fact, as in having said something
        and then people responding with additional information.
        Note the words “I haven’t a clue what she knows and doesn’t know”.
        This point of NOW, though either lost on you or wilfully ignored, is the
        defining point-of course it makes your accusation asinine to say the least,
        and your purpose transparent in failing to reference it so you have flagrantly
        avoided mention or consideration of it.
        With your pronounced penchant to double talk AIM could have found a
        place for you in their propaganda department-have you considered applying
        for such a position?

        “Now if Whoopi had spoken ill of Russell you would be taking the opposite
        tact-personally I haven’t a clue about what she knows and doesn’t know,and I’m
        kind of thinking neither do you, but I suspect she knows a little more now
        than she may have previously-whether that bodes well or not remains to be seen.”

        “I said I suspect Whoopi knows more about it NOW-meaning that various tweets and
        responses have been sent to her and references have been made on several sites in
        response to her statement-nice attempt to spin Isobel but people can read and
        understand.
        Now it’s libel-is that on the AIMINTELPRO list of approved comments to make and
        misdirect their minions seem to love?”

        And your latest….”It appears some people say Mr Robinson was there 1 day others
        say he was there 1 week.”

        I think we’re all pretty much aware of the conflicting stories-I’ve addressed
        several of them, the commonality they share is where they originate from
        and who created them. Have you missed that in your “quick research” or
        merely chosen to gloss over it?
        Bottomline is what difference does it make how long he was there-does
        it mitigate his murder and burial in an unmarked grave?
        What isn’t going to help Ray’s family is the decades long denials, silence,
        and obstruction-the very ploy that has characterized the AIM response to
        the murder of Annie Mae as well-neither will your ridiculous attempt to assist
        in that from your lofty perch across the pond.
        And you’re right Isobel, your access to this blog is rapidly dwindling-due to
        examples like this-you bring nothing to the table other than a lot of disjointed
        attempts to reconstruct what has been said and portray them all
        as libel-you’re way of taking the fifth rather than admit what is clearly stated,
        and should be apparent to even a blind person.
        Maybe you should write Cheryl, Ray’s widow, his children, and share with them
        your take on things-explain to them how wrong they have been all these decades.
        Tell them how pure and innocent AIM is-what stellar individuals the leadership
        has been, how they’ve just been misunderstood and libelled. I’m sure they would
        appreciate your “assistance”. And who knows, your great sympathy could be the
        very thing that would bring closure.
        Rather than “writing back” on this most auspicious of days better if you would
        have donned sack cloth and ashes and wandered the streets of your community publicly
        displaying your distress than to come here, and as a friend would say “tear your ass”,
        which is to say, make a fool of yourself-something you’re quite good at.
        Nice to know that your “quick research” trumps the years of research done by others,
        the personal experiences of others, and our people’s day to day experience of life as
        it is.
        That it trumps the experience of those who have lived under AIM’s Reign of Terror and
        survived-people like Adrienne Fritze. Have you heard of her-or her site Uncover Our
        Hearts at Wounded Knee, or is that another reality you choose to ignore?

  6. No there was a statement made by LBW that Whoopi Goldberg knew years ago and you have openly stated Russell Means was responsible.If you’re going to tell one lie, don’t tell another to try to cover up that you.
    Maybe yoiu should write to Ray Robinson’s and explain why you’re exploiting the family’s grief to pursue your vendetta.
    You appear to have deleted another blog or so it seems on quick glance/; too much truth on it for you presumably, you wouldn’t like that.

    • Isobel-it might lend some credibility (if you’re interested in that) by
      quoting such things verbatim you say I have said as I have done with your
      words.
      “Exploiting the family’s grief”? perhaps you should do as I suggested
      and contact them to share the benefit of your wisdom and explain to them
      that Ray wasn’t a victim, that in fact it was actually Russell and AIM
      that were victims in your estimation and they should view Ray’s murder as
      a sacrifice to AIM’s laudable “cause”.
      I’m sure that would lift the burden from them and provide the closure
      they’ve sought for decades.
      The inherent weakness of your position and defense is becoming increasingly
      apparent as evidenced by the feeble nature of your responses.

  7. Round and round and round he goes, where he stops, nobody knows. Ok then, although you ought to be capable of a) remembering what you wrote and b) remembering when someone else wrote a comment amounting to libel about Whoopi Goldberg.


    Looking Back Woman-Suzanne Dupree
    on October 31, 2012 at 2:29 pm said:
    Whoopi Goldberg has known about Russell Means & AIMS abuses, & about Ray Robinson for a long time, for our mutual friend Ellen Washington, my friend in junior high..before Ellen went from Pasco Washington to live with her Mother in Berekley, California.
    Out of the blue last year… Ellen, whom I had not heard from for 4 decades contacted me via FB.
    Since Ellen for a time was on my FB friends list, anything I wrote on my page, would be seen by anyone who was on her friends list.
    Ellen lived with Whoopi, so there is little doubt in my mind, the FB exchanges between Ellen & myself, were known by Whoopi, & she has known about Ray Robinson’s murder by AIM.
    Ellen knew exactly what I was fighting against…as she mentioned it in our conversations.
    Ellen & I even talked about her visiting me, I am glad it never actually occurred…
    Ellen & Whoopi’s political position (pro-Obama), is not mine….
    The Hollyweird tolerant lib attitude is not my own.’
    —————————————-

    Rezinate: ‘Amazing how your mind works Isobel-I’ve been back over the blog and
    my responses as cited below-nowhere within them do I see anything
    even vaguely stating that Russell personally killed Ray-it’s a difficult
    task for you to accept things as they are written or said, but you’re
    really going to have to make the effort if your sole purpose is defend
    your “friend”.
    As to Whoopi, read again-note that the emphasis is placed on NOW-that
    would be post tweets, as in after the fact, as in having said something
    and then people responding with additional information.
    Note the words “I haven’t a clue what she knows and doesn’t know”.
    This point of NOW, though either lost on you or wilfully ignored, is the
    defining point-of course it makes your accusation asinine to say the least,
    and your purpose transparent in failing to reference it so you have flagrantly
    avoided mention or consideration of it.’
    —————————

    Rezinate, it’s actually more amazing how your mind works.

    • Isobel-apparently asking you to read statements again is an exercise
      in futility as you remain unwilling or incapable of understanding what
      is written-in posting this comment along with quotes you’ve done little
      more than prove my point, so thank you for that.
      At least this time some effort is made to recognize as per your points of
      A and B who said what. Is it really all that difficult for you?

  8. No it’s not difficult for me. LBW stated Whoopi Goldberg knew some time ago about AIM involvement in Ray Robinson’s murder, then you denied that appeared on the thread even thought it was sitting right there.

    Your problem is not that I remain incapable of understanding what is written, I understand only too well what is written. And the twisted nature of the responses to my comments.

    • Isobel-with your ability to understand could you then cite as
      in copy/paste my “denial”?
      You know, an exact copy rather than what you would infer or
      attempt to reconstruct?
      It’s all available for people to read-do you think they are
      incapable of doing so?

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