SLOW DAYS AND MALHUER ARREST CONSPIRACIES

The entire purpose for the existence of conspiracy sites is to promote conspiracy theories, at times they may get it right, other times you’re left with the impression they could find a conspiracy in a box of Crackers Jacks if it was a slow day so I don’t take everything they say as gospel.

I’m willing to speculate there may be additional video that may or may not be released, but an example of how things evolve is a claim being advanced by an eighteen year old girl/woman who was a passenger in the vehicle Lavoy Finicum was driving that something in the neighborhood of 120 shots were fired.

There will be and already are people who are promoting that idea – but 120 shots fired at close range and only one dead?

I don’t think so – this isn’t Hollywood where hundreds of rounds are fired and nobody gets hit.

Flashbangs were going off and in the noise and confusion of the moment I believe an eighteen year old or anyone might be overwhelmed and think a barrage of bullets was taking place.

If this was in fact the case then at some point we should see a bullet riddled pickup and bullet shattered glass flying around unless a claim will be advanced that law enforcement present were either such bad shots they couldn’t hit a pickup a few feet or away, were firing in the air, or an autopsy report and subseuqent viewing by the family of Finicums’s body reveals literally multiples of ten wounds and  recovered bullets.

Minus the claims and supportive evidence not a one of the above explanations will advance the conspiracy claim of cold blooded murder.

Vehicle doors and windows don’t stop bullets unless they’re the kind used in presidential motorcades and so far I haven’t heard of any of the other occupants backing up the claim.

In fact Ammon Bundy is now sending messages that his cohorts should stand down and they are asking if they can be pardoned and leave – there’s about as much chance of that as demanding a fueled up jet and safe passage to Algieria.

The realities are the direct result of choices made.

The assumption that there may be additional video has to be based on a belief that someone at ground level was recording the encounter, if not then that will no doubt lead to claims that such videos do exist and are being withheld – which will dovetail nicely with presentations made by conspiracy sites and theorists.

It’s possible that a dash cam if there were any may have caught some portion of events, but a dash cam or  video sources other than those produced by the drone are speculation, at least for the moment.

One possible point to consider as you view the video is none of the vehicles employed as road blocks are facing in the same direction as where Finicum was shot, so even if they were dash cam equipped it wouldn’t have made a difference.

I understand commitment to a cause whether misguided or well founded, but in view of statements that the occupiers weren’t going anywhere and would die if need to be I question the wisdom of a group of grown men allowing an eighteen year old girl/woman who has her entire life ahead of her to be involved in any manner.

Bottom line is I’m not impressed by any of this and I don’t have a need to manufacture heroes – real heroes and real conspiracies exist, that should be enough for everyone.

The story is Ryan Bundy, Lavoy, and part of the crew in another vehicle were on their way to give a presentation to something like four hundred people, the subliminal message is to promote the idea that these four hundred people were fans and supporters, that ignores other presentations where they weren’t greeted well and basically told to get the hell out.

In one segment of the video as you see Finicum turn it looks as though his left arm has moved close to his body as if attempting to open or move his jacket and his right arm moves in that direction to where a handgun he was known to carry would be.

If a suggestion  is made that Finicum is attempting to maintain his balance then experiment and see if you move your arms inward in an attempt to balance or outward to act as a counterbalance?

A conspiracy question has been raised that if Lavoy did intend to shoot it out why didn’t he exit the pickup with gun blazing?

It’s also been said that he was saying there was a woman or women in the truck and they should be allowed to exit – that explains to my satisfaction why Finicum didn’t exit with gun drawn – if he was concerned about evacuating women why would he emerge with a gun in his hand that would surely provoke a response?

Of course that may be too simple or obvious an explanation to gel with a conspiracy theory.

The reader probably has arrived at the conclusion that I don’t have a lot of use for conspiracy theories and those who routinely advance them as a lifestyle – if so they’d be correct, and the reason for my always initial skepticism is the four plus decades of bullshit and conspiracies advanced by the American Indian Movement that has obstructed the acceptance of reality and justice for the survivors of AIM’s numerous victims – that and countless others.

In addition I believe there is enough bullshit going on to contend with without manufacturing more.

Now let’s talk about real conspiracies and coverups like those alien Reptilians that live and walk among us or Aliens working with engineers at Area 51…….where’s Mulder and Scully when you need them?

http://www.metatube.com/en/videos/295730/VIDEO-Joint-FBI-and-OSP-Operation-Complete-and-Unedited/

https://rezinate.wordpress.com/2016/01/28/malheur-refuge-occupation-and-wounded-knee-2/

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MALHEUR REFUGE OCCUPATION AND WOUNDED KNEE 2

 

What now? – What has taken place was nothing if not inevitable in the age of homeland security, the patriot act, and historical reference.

In fact more than a few are amazed that the occupation of the Malheur Refuge has gone on as long as it has – this isn’t Ruby Ridge or Waco yet the drama will continue in the aftermath as it did  there.

The limited support for the occupiers may experience an upsurge following the death of Lavoy Finicum, who by all accounts was a decent man who opened his home to numerous foster children and did right by them.

Charges and countercharges will be leveled, accussations of cold blooded murder and conspiracies will sprout like weeds in an untend garden as “justice” is pursued.

In this pursuit for justice the injustice of the original occupation may at times be a minor talking point as occupiers occupied an already occupied land.

Talk is cheap and rehtoric isn’t assured to generate support or sympathy, in that Ammon Bundy and crew learned the hard way the axiomatic truth of that – that to rage against the machine doesn’t always work, doesn’t always rally support.

This is the age of terrorism and but a short step for a great many on the local and national level to view this occupation as an act of domestic terrorism whether in fact it is or not.

It has been clearly established that the government over reacted at Waco and Ruby Ridge, law suits that prevailed and official “reprimands” attest to that and undoubtedly lay the ground work for more of the same.

There is a growing sense of disconnect in this country, a feeling that things are spiralling out of control and the voices of this nation are measured by wealth and influence – that an inanimate object such as corporations possesses rights and access exceeding those of the individual, that the government can and will change the rules as it deems appropriate with an eye to self perpetuation and maintaining the existing status quo as a priority – a premise increasingly difficult to deny that will increasingly lead to protests in myriad ways.

There has been and will be those who will attempt to liken what is taking place at Malheur to the events of Wounded Knee 2 – “patriots” and “liberators” taking a stand not for their individual selves but for others and a nation, perhaps something the indigenous people of this country should support as the site Last Real Indians speculated about – yet I say though the physical act of occupation is similar the realities are vastly different.

There has been no rampage at Malheur directed by the leaders, no arson and looting, no rapes, drunken or drug induced revelry, artifacts have not been destroyed, stolen, or marketed.

No hostage taking nor the murder of innocents, and while similarities exist the differences are a chasm that neither words nor rhetoric can span or deny.

WK2 was not a defense, nor a stand for liberation, it was an assualt by an invading force bent on destruction that led to the murder of non combatant innocents both men and women whose remains have yet to be repatriated.

I won’t attempt to draw a connecting line between those at Mahleur and those who initiated WK2, I won’t muse that perhaps as a people we share a commonality with them and that maybe somehow as indigenous people of the nations we are kindred spirits and need to be supportive, for those at Malheur are as different from us as were those who led the devastation at WK2.

In the end the reality of occupation at Malheur only changed the faces of those who for a short time occupy and hold not just land and buildings, but has impacted the lives of a nation who are the true owners, the original aggrieved, the Burns Paiute, who have a prior existing claim established thousands of years ago that far exceeds the thirteen thousand odd acres they currently reside on.

A people now numbering in the mere hundreds buffeted by winds of change amounting to more than access fees and regulations governing land use – more than fences and an enforced poverty and dependency – a greater wind that laid waste not just to a way of life but covered the land with blood.

Ammon Bundy stated the purpose of the occupation was to return land to the rightful owners when the intent was to return it to those who occupied a conquered and divvied up land……..the rightful owners were never part of the equation.

As is often the case the Constitution is cited while ignoring what should be an affirmation
that “all men are created equal”.

An equality if observed would also recognize the injustice visited upon the Paiute and all nations of this land and hemisphere – in doing so no dispute as to ownership and rights would exist.

Blood has now been spilled, as a people we know all too well the meaning of that for we live in a land blanketed with the blood of our own, and all I can say is thus far the occupiers unlike AIM have not spilled our blood or the blood of their own, and like Wounded Knee 2 nothing good will come of this.

https://rezinate.wordpress.com/2016/01/08/malheur-wildlife-refuge-and-last-real-indians/